Calling all Raiders Immediate discussion on what constitutes as off limit.

Discussion in 'Policies, Guidelines & Announcements' started by BANHAMMER, Feb 12, 2013.

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  1. BANHAMMER

    BANHAMMER Teh Almighty BanHammer Staff Member

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    Staff and everyone else.
    There has been some objection on the contents of images posted on the NSFW thread sharing the pictures of female celebrities. I would like to address this issue in more broader and generic terms.
    Since this forum has been male dominant and we have fairly flexible attitude towards
    a) Profanities
    b) Nudity.
    However that being said, few female member do feel the need to have some kind of moderation/censoring on what is the limit to these profanity and nudity. All guidelines are subjected to be applied to everyone including senior members and Staff.
    So I would like to debate on this topic. I would like to invite solarplexus skindeepink Mrs. abhi0008 MrsJD666 mrsmohitgamer and others(Please forgive me if I am unable to put all names of known female member).
    I am more or less clear about what guys have to say on this topic, However I would like to ask Rockfella a bit more about his ideas, since he is one of the biggest contributors of the pictures.

    I would not tolerate anyone attacking anyone else in any way on this thread.
    Please use constructive discussion to come to an amicable general ground for criteria.
     
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  2. MOZ

    MOZ RAID Leader Staff Member

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    I'll be honest, there are measure to prevent the female users from being these threads. I.e. profanity filters/censors.

    Now if a user turns these off to view these particular threads, then as a moderator, there isn't much I can say. You want to view those threads and then you complain?
     
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    BANHAMMER Teh Almighty BanHammer Staff Member

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    Moz, That is not what this thread is about, It is about the criteria. Even when the NSFW is applied, there is still few things which should not be allowed.
    So, we are discussing what should be those criteria, it is like deciding what ratings to be given to a movie but there are few scenes of the movie which cannot be shown at all.
     
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    dbg RAID Staff Staff Member

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    NSFW filter does kind of answer this situation. If you want to make that filter according to specific content .. It would be more helpful.

    Are we talking only about the one thread ?

    There are always borderline cases .. even in written words .. things like this cannot be defined that specifically. words, pictures etc.
     
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    BANHAMMER Teh Almighty BanHammer Staff Member

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    Let me give you an idea:
    Visibility of nipples or areola may be considered even off limits for NFSW.
    Similar rules can be applied to crotch areas. I want to ensure we have a criteria in more measurable way(% of covering of parts etc.)
    I will not take anyone else's word on it subjectively, lets do it in more precise way.
     
  6. skindeepink

    skindeepink RAID Rookie

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    Thank u for this wonderful initiative Init. However, I don't think there is any way to make sure that we all will agree to a common set of guidelines when it comes to pictures of women wearing next to nothing with their body parts falling out of the darn stickies they seem to be flaunting.

    Also, as a community we all have a right to express our opinions and I would appreciate if everybody understands that "We All" includes females and the use of alphabets which will result in words that will make sense and express. Which in turn means that you can not categorize threads as per genders hence the stuff that is posted here needs to be published keeping in mind the total population of the forum and not just a particular group.

    I am sure I will get some flak about this but I relate vulgarity with disrespect. If there will be threads about female celebrities then we should ensure that it is "about" the celebrity and not about her bust or ass or thong.
     
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    BANHAMMER Teh Almighty BanHammer Staff Member

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    You are underestimating the power of BANHAMMER
    Once the criteria is set, I will ensure it is followed and so will all other moderators.
    But we need a criteria. Opinions are respected here, however when we are doing our duty as admins and moderators we need policies and guidelines, we cannot act on whims.
    As I pointed in previous post, kind of clothing is irrelevant, however the % of exposed region could easily be made a criteria, or until unless you have a clear idea as what to what forms a suitable cut-off please speak about it.
    Again, I would like to correct myself about saying it was about pictures of female celebrity, it was about hot pictures of scantily dressed female celebrities.
     
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    skindeepink RAID Rookie

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    the guidelines at the strt of the thread stated:

    Before I initiate this thread, please keep the following in mind before posting any images here. 1. Nudity and private parts will not be tolerated. Be sure before posting any image. You will get into trouble for violation. 2. This thread is being marked as NSFW and 18+ but this does not contain any nudity. 3. If you have a doubt about an image, I suggest you contact a mod before posting it. They're there for a reason. 4. We're ideally aiming for a self-moderated forum with minimum moderating needs.

    Read More at: NSFW - Hotness redefined. (NSFW/18+). No Nudity Please | RAID101
    Copyright ©RAID101

    They were self explanatory , if they were followed nobody would have had any issues.

    Plus Private parts are supposed to be private. No one can say that a woman's ass is covered cuz she is wearing a G-string or her thong is covering her private parts to a certain percentage so it's being translucent doesn't count.

    I will await the guidelines and make it my personal agenda that either I report each and every offending picture that comes up or I will simply leave the forum.

    Here I rest my case. Thank You :)
     
  9. MOZ

    MOZ RAID Leader Staff Member

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    Can you not ignore it? You do not have to view NSFW threads?
     
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    skindeepink RAID Rookie

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    Why would I ignore it Moz?? I have a right to view any thread I want and express what i feel. The guidelines were misleading, and were obviously not followed. I like looking at beautiful sexy scantily clad women but not vulgar pictures. That thread was for all things sexy not all things vulgar or perverted. So instead of anyone ignoring it , why don't we start either following the guidelines and respecting everyone's comfort or describing what is actually there in the thread.


    all the above said in good faith :)
     
  11. JD666

    JD666 RAID Leader Staff Member

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    Okay, personally we are going too fine on this. Anything that would be printed in any regular Magazine, newspaper, publication etc should be permitted. Going by what they print in newspapers/magazines which are read by kids and not just adults, I think we're better with an NSFW and 18+ warning atleast.

    Stuff that is too suggestive, barely covering, translucent, creative enough etc should not be permitted.

    There isn't a fine line to nudity/revealing. It's one line, you are either showing it, or not showing it. We should try and walk more on the side, that is not showing it too much, for everyone's satisfaction.

    And finally, The NSFW thread is purely for fun. Let's just keep it that ways, please.
     
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    rpm Lizard king Staff Member

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    I don't care about the cupcake threads, so block them if you want. but let language freedom prevail boys and girls.
     
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    dbg RAID Staff Staff Member

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    skindeepink RAID Rookie

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    well I agree with the freedom of speech :D
     
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    BANHAMMER Teh Almighty BanHammer Staff Member

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    oh well, so I guess ass is a private part.
    So ass-lovers have to compromise without asses.
     
  16. JD666

    JD666 RAID Leader Staff Member

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    I think the use of profanity/abuses was controlled by the filters. However abusing someone or using profanity against someone on a forum is purely internet balls. And that does not come under Freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is to express what you feel/say as skindeepink did. Much appreciated.
     
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    dbg RAID Staff Staff Member

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    Did she now ? :rolleyes:
     
  18. skindeepink

    skindeepink RAID Rookie

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    yes Sir DBG :) I did :evilgrin:
    --- Double Post Merged, Feb 13, 2013 ---
    thanks JD
     
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    Luciffer Satan Spawn Staff Member

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    skindeepink Lemme tell you a little story:
    I personally am vehemently Pro Gay rights.
    While I was in college, as President of the Foreign Student Assn. I was a secretary in the Gay & Lesbian society of Columbia.
    As such, I was invited to rent a place in a very high end Gay Building in Manhattan at vastly discounted rates.
    Was one of the few straight people in the entire high rise but since everyone knew I was straight.. Noone ever gave me any trouble.
    The only thing that they'd do.. is deliberately kiss & make out in front of me in places like elevators and watch me squirm.
    Two Guys I mean. The women tried it too.. but that just made me err.. 'happy' LOL
    But no matter how liberal I was, no matter how I didn't care what a stranger's sexual preferences were..
    Watching 2 guys go at it.. wasn't something I could stomach

    Now.. why am I boring you with all this?
    See.. most guys in India are far less tolerant about homosexuality than I am, and for that matter quite homophobic. :)
    So.. next time you find a pic you don't like...
    Remember the American idiom: " Don't Get mad.. get even"
    Don't complain.. rather go ask 'Uncle Google' to lend you a couple of pics of scantily clad men going at it..
    And go slap it in the thread..
    Sit back.. and watch how fast these guys ................ :giiggle:
     
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  20. JD666

    JD666 RAID Leader Staff Member

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    ^^ Lol, Luciffer, you just gave the secret away!
     
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